May 22

“Rage-ingly” creative dance emerges to breathe some new life to an over hashed culture. Hope the music can get a jolt as well.
Stripper, Clown & Krump.

23 Responses to “Stripper, Clown & Krump – DAVID * LACHAPELLE – RIZE”

  1. Derek Says:

    RIZE – POSSIBLY THE MOST OFFENSIVE MOVIE OF THE YEAR

    I RECENTLY HAD THE DISPLEASURE OF WATCHING RIZE, DAVID LA CHAPELLES’ BLAXPLOITATION “DOCUMENTARY”. SUPPOSEDLY THIS MOVIE TELLS THE STORY OF L.A.S KRUMP/CLOWN DANCERS.

    LET ME DISCLOSE SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY. I HAVE PRODUCED SEGMENTS FOR A TELEVISION SHOW ON KRUMP DANCING AND MET SEVERAL OF THE SUBJECTS IN THIS MOVIE THROUGH A GREAT WEBSITE CALLED KRUMPKINGS.COM.

    IF YOU’VE SEEN “PARIS IS BURNING” YOU’VE SEEN THIS MOVIE, BUT WAY BETTER. EVERY SINGLE SHOT IS A DIRECT RIP OFF OF JENNY LIVINGSTONES EXCELLENT MOVIE ABOUT THE VOGUERS OF NYC PRE-MADONNA.

    IF YOU WATCHED IN RAPTURE AS PEPPER LA BEIJA APPLIED HER MAKEUP THEN YOU KNOW THE EXACT STROKES THAT LA CHAPELLE HAD HIS SUBJECTS USE IN THIS BORDERLINE RACIST “DOCUMENTARY”.

    WHERE DO I START?

    THIS IS A MOVIE THAT ANY STUDENT AT THE BRAILLE INSTITUTE CAN SEE A MILE DOWN THE ROAD. EVERY SCENE IS A CLICHÉ. THE WORST TYPE OF CLICHÉS. WHILE I KNOW DW GRIFFITH IS LONG DEAD I CAN’T HELP BUT THINK MR “BIRTH OF A NATION” WOULD BE PROUD OF THE WAY LA CHAPELLE MAKES BLACK PEOPLE LOOK.

    WITHOUT A TRACE OF GUILT LA CHAPELLE LACES IN IMAGES OF AFRICAN DANCERS WITH THE KRUMP DANCERS. NOT ONLY IS THIS LAZY FILMMAKING, THE AFRICANS WERE SHOT BY FAMED NAZI LENI REIFANSTAHL. DID NO ONE HAVE THE SENSE TO SAY TO LA CHAPELLE, “HEY, UH, DAVE, THIS BROAD HELPED HITLER KILL PEOPLE. MAYBE WE COULD USE SOMETHING ELSE?” OF COURSE THAT WOULD HAVE MEANT DOING SOME RESEARCH WHICH AFTER STEALING “PARIS IS BURNING” LA CHAPELLE WAS PROBABLY TOO TIRED TO DO.

    WHAT’S WRONG WITH THIS PARTICULAR SCENE? GUESS WHAT PRIVILEDGED WHITE GUY? WE DON’T ALL HAVE THE NOBLE SAVAGE IN US! NOT EVERYTHING IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO MOTHER AFRICA. MAYBE IF YOU HAD SOME BLACK PEOPLE ON YOUR CREW SOMEONE COULD HAVE POINTED THAT OUT.

    THE SEXUALIZATION OF BLACK YOUTH THROUGHOUT THE MOVIE IS ALSO CREEPY IN A BRUCE WEBER/ABERCROMBIE AND BITCH SORT OF WAY.

    IN ONE SCENE A YOUNG GIRL OF ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD IS SHOWN DOING THE “STRIPPER DANCE”. AS SHE DOES THE SPLITS AND PROCEEDS TO DRY HUMP THE FLOOR A NARRATOR CLAIMS WHAT SHE IS DOING IS NON-SEXUAL! BECAUSE NO ONE IS WITH OR TOUCHING HER IT’S JUST “NATURAL”.

    OF COURSE IT’S NATURAL. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT BLACK WOMEN ARE HYPERSEXUAL FROM BIRTH AND HAVE TO GET IT OUT SOMEHOW. WHY, SLAVEOWNERS WERE WELL AWARE OF THIS FACT AND DID THEIR BEST TO HELP BLACK WOMEN DEAL WITH THIS BY RAPING THEM FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

    LET ME TELL YOU ‘BOUT THE UPROAR THAT WOULD HAVE ENSUED HAD IT BEEN A WHITE GIRL. JON BENETS’ PARENTS WERE CRUCIFIED FOR DRESSING HER LIKE FREAKIN’ GLENDA THE GOOOD WITCH! BUT SOMEHOW IT’S OKAY FOR A LITTLE BLACK GIRL TO GO ALL CANDY STORE ON A DIRTY FLOOR. HI, DOUBLE STANDARD FOR NEGROES, YES OVER HERE PLEASE.

    ANOTHER THING THAT REALLY MADE ME RUN TO THE SHOWER WAS SOMETHING I COULDN’T QUITE PUT MY FINGER ON.

    I DON’T KNOW THE LEAD CHARACTER PERSONALLY, BUT, IN THE GREAT TRADITION OF CLOWNS (JOHN WAYNE GACY, SIDESHOW BOB, MICHAEL JACKSON) SOMETHIN’ AINT RIGHT ABOUT TOMMY THE CLOWN.

    I HAVE BEEN AND KNOWN MANY A BLACK QUEEN FOR A LONG TIME AND IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK….. SOMETHING IS NOT QUITE RIGHT ABOUT A MAN WHO SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH YOUNG HALF NAKED BOYZ IN DA HOOD. OH SURE, THERE’S GIRLS, BUT IT’S THE BOYZ WHO GET THE CLOWNS MAIN ATTENTION. AND LA CHAPELLE EITHER CELEBRATES THIS ICKINESS OR IS SO CLUELESS TO LIFE OUTSIDE OF WEHO THAT HE DOESN’T SEE ANYTHING WRONG OR STRANGE ABOUT IT. “HEY. UH, DAVE. MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK THE KIDS IF THEY’VE EVER BEEN ‘TOUCHED’”? OF COURSE DAVE PROBABLY THINKS ALL KIDS IN THE GHETTO ARE SEXUALLY MATURE SO THIS WASN’T AN ISSUE.

    IT FREAKED ME OUT.

    WAIT! JUST WHEN YOU THINK THEY’VE RUN OUT OF CLICHES, WHAT’S THAT? A BLACK STOREFRONT CHURCH! OH LORDY WEZE SO HAPPY WE GOT DA LORD TO GET US THROUGH OUR MISERABLE LIVES! PRAISE BE TO WHITEY, I MEAN GOD!

    I’VE ALSO BEEN BLACK AND AN ANGELENO FOR A REALLY LONG TIME AND I HAVE NEVER, I REPEAT, NEVER GONE DOWN INTO THE L.A RIVER TO SING NEGRO SPIRITUALS WITH A FAT BLACK WOMAN. I ONCE GOT WASTED AND SANG LED ZEPPELIN SONGS AT THE ROSE PARADE. I EVEN ONCE SANG KARAOKE AT AN ASIAN WEDDING (THE BIG TIME OF KARAOKE), BUT, NO, NOT ONCE HAVE I DONE THE SPRITUAL THING IN THE RIVER.

    AS FAR AS I KNOW A DOCUMENTARY IS A FILM ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE.

    IF THAT’S TRUE WHAT THE HELL IS RIZE? THERE’S A SCENE WHERE A YOUNG MAN IS DANCING WITH THE SANTA MONICA PIER IN THE BACKGROUND. AS HE’S DANCING THE WAVES CRASH AGAINST HIM.

    REALITY CHECK YOU FUCKING IDIOT LA CHAPELLE! NO BLACK TEENAGE MALE ON THIS EARTH IS GOING TO DANCE IN THE WATER IN HIS TIMBALANDS! AND HE’S POOR! I’VE GOT MONEY AND MY MOTHER WOULD KICK MY ASS FOR THAT. SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HIS THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT ONE.

    THE SANTA MONICA PIER! DID THE DIRECTOR HAVE AN IMPORTANT MEETING WITH THE EDITORS OF LUCKY MAGAZINE PLANNED FOR LATER AT NOBU IN MALIBU AND THIS WAS JUST REALLY MORE CONVENIENT?

    DON’T WORRY WE’RE COMING TO THE END OF MY RANT.

    BUT NOT YET.

    GENERAL NOTE TO WHITE PEOPLE: WE DON’T ALL GET OILED UP AND WRITHE AROUND WITH WATER SPLASHING ON US. JUST SO YOU KNOW.

    JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT THE CLICHES COULDN’T GET ANY MORE OBVIOUS HERE COMES THE BIGGETS CLICHÉ OF THEM ALL…….YES! IT’S THE “SOMEONE GOT SHOT AND KILLED RIGHT DOWN THE STREET”PART OF THE MOVIE.

    ONCE AGAIN “PARIS IS BURNING” IS RIPPED OFF FOR MINIMAL EFFECT.

    NOT TO MAKE LIGHT OF THE YOUNG LADYS DEATH, BUT, SHE WASN’T EVEN A CHARACTER UNTIL DAVE NEEDED A BLACK KID TO DIE AND TUG AT THE OLE LIBERAL HEARTSTRINGS. “THANK GOD THERE’S VIDEO OF SOMEONE DEAD KRUMP DANCING OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO KILL A NIGLET OURSELVES”.

    SPEAKING OF LIBERALS. WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH ALL THE “ALTERNATIVE” NEWSPAPERS GIVING THIS PIECE OF CRAP RAVE REVIEWS? AT SUNDANCE THEY CHEERED. WHERE THERE NO BLACK PEOPLE THERE? OR ON THE STAFF AT THE L.A. WEEKLY, ETC.?

    AT THE END OF THE MOVIE EVEN THE WHITE PEOPLE IN OUR GROUP TURNED TO ME AND ASKED WHAT I FELT ABOUT THIS MOVIE BECAUSE IT WAS SO OBVIOUSLY RACIST. DID NO ONE AT THE WEEKLY CALL SOMEONE OVER AT ROSCOES (“OH MY GOD THEY HAVE THE BEST CHICKEN AND WAFFLES!” NEW NOTE: BLACK PEOPLE DON’T EAT CHICKEN AND WAFFLES IN REAL LIFE) AND ASK TO SPEAK TO A BLACK PERSON TO GET THEIR TAKE ON THIS BOOOLSHIT?

    I’M WINDING DOWN.

    BUT WAIT! JUST SO YOU, THE LIBERAL WHITE VIEWER CAN FEEL PART OF THIS WILD JIGABOO FEEL GOOD SIDESHOW, LA CHAPELLE BRINGS OUT A WHITE KRUMPER! “YEAH NOBODY THOUGHT A WHITE BOY COULD DO IT”.

    ONE LAST NOTE TO WEHO QUEENS, WHITE GIRLS WHO RUN SCREAMING TO THE DANCE FLOOR WHEN “WHITE LINES” COMES ON AT TEMPLE BAR, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO IDENTIFIES WITH THE BLACK EXPERIENCE,
    YOU DO NOT KNOW THE BEST SOUL FOOD “JOINT”.YOU DO NOT DANCE LIKE, HAVE A BUTT LIKE, OR FUCK LIKE BLACK PEOPLE. YOU JUST DON’T. IT’S COOL. YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE MASTERS OF EVERYTHING.

    COULD SOMEONE IN HOLLYWOOD JUST PLEASE STOP GREENLIGHTING MOVIES WHERE KEANU REEVES GOES THE GHETTO TO COACH A TEAM OR MICHELLE PFEIFFER GOES TO THE GHETTO TO TEACH THE UNTEACHABLE? OR ….WHY BOTHER? BOYCOTT RIZE. THAT’S ALL I’M SAYING.

  2. RAMON BREANDA Says:

    I have not yet seen the movie rize so i wont comment on the movie it’s self, How ever i do feel your revies is alittle off base it’s not about the white guy going to film rize to us that krump it’s about being heard or seen. I all so must agree i’m tired of seeing these movies where some guy comes in and helps the poor little black kids who have nothing but i must say it’s a shame a black film team didn’t think it was a good idea to do a movie about krump danceing

  3. tiny Says:

    Just to be clear Asia, that was a comment by “Derek” you are responding to.
    I simply posted the link to the trailer.
    I respect all opinions.

    Tiny
    editor
    TinyLittleDots

    http://www.tinylittledots.com

  4. Ms.Baby T. Says:

    Hey Derek! You don’t know anything about them! U have some nerve 2 come on here and say all this bull about the movie , about the kids and about tommy! Why don’t u bring yo ass down 2 Ghetto and see it 4 real! Krumpin’ and Clownin’ and even Stripper dancer is a way 4 us kids 2 express ourselves,not 2 expose ourselves. Where we kids live we don’t have enough money 4 ballet dance classes or stuff like that! Like in the movie Dancin’ is a way to keep us out of gangs and off da streets! Thanks 2 David Lachapelle He’s has propbally opened alot of eyes 2 show what we go through everyday! Talkin’ about their mothers and their churches being here 4 us It’s not a Cliche’ “It’s reality! It’s life!” So i guess u think twice about what u say cuz u don’t know shit! SO DON’T GET IT TWISTED!

  5. tiny Says:

    Asia’s comment from August 15th Reposted by editor Tiny.
    (sorry Asia it some how got deleted. I’m having some troubles with the comments section)

    i respect your opinion but every word you said was bull.you had nothing positive to say about the the movie, wich was kinda hard to believe.kids like me rely on stuff like krumping and people like tommy and here are bashing almost everything that makes me me.i can’t believe that you would stoop so low as to say that tommy might have touched some of his clowns. one of the clowns is tommy’s own daughter and that was uot of line. how do you know what goes on in our lives? just because your
    “black” your supposed to know what we go through and what we do in our free time? and what was racist about it? the movie had asians, whites, and blacks. there’s nothing even close to racism. and it’s small minded ppl like you that make kids like me want to krump.

  6. tiny Says:

    Asia’s comment from August 16th Reposted by editor Tiny.
    (sorry Asia it some how got deleted. I’m having some troubles with the comments section)

    i dont even know y i came on this sight. derek, your borderline white ass can kiss my black ass. thanx 4 your time

  7. Kinchasa Says:

    I agree with Ms.Baby T. regarding Derek!

  8. Alex Says:

    haven’t seen the movie. i really want to because everyone is making such a fuss about it and id like to get my own opinion on it.

    but let me make my worry clear, I am sick and tired of people being afraid to offend. Every body is so fucking politically correct these days as to avoid offending. WHY? because its so horrible to be accused a racist- especially if your white (haven’t u noticed?)
    well forget that.
    Example: I wont tip toe around black people because I have to make up for the slavery their race had once endured because of my people. For one- its in the fucking past and two- its wasn’t me enslaving black people and it wasn’t you being enslaved my white people. We’re a different generation. Lets let go of grudges and get on with our lives.

    look, why dont we adopt something called “universality.” hmmm, ever heard of it… this is how it goes, EVERYONE IS EQUAL. why do people feel the need to make exceptions? Alright, so minorities have been abused (and still are), but they’re not the only ones. everyone is judged, labeled, discriminated, condemned, categorized and degraded so stop your pity fests. I don’t know you and I will not judge you. You don’t know me, so do not judge me either.

    I’m a white female, and let me tell you that I have felt the sting of racism too. Just because I’m a white girl who lives in the suburbs doesn’t mean my life is perfect. you may think I’m a spoiled rich bitch who knows nothing about inner city life. Maybe so, I never claimed to, but where the fuck do you get off saying I’ve never felt oppressed. My oppression is totally different from somebody my age of Asian decent living in… oh I don’t know… Ohio. You have no idea about my life so don’t make ignorant assumptions because it just makes you look like you think you’re somehow better than me, cooler because your street smart, and/or deserve more respect- because you don’t. how do you know I wasn’t adopted because my mother didn’t want me? Or maybe my fathers an alcoholic. Maybe I was sexually molested as a child. Maybe I’m clinically depressed. So shut the fuck up. Everyone deserves the same amount of respect.

    Instead of tip toeing around Black, Asian, Latino etc. people- treat them equal. Do you understand that its not the WHITE MAN who is a powerful selfish corporate asshole its JUST A MAN. Not a white man. A man. Him being white shouldn’t have any significance. He is bad to people because he is a bad person not because he’s white. Being white does not make him bad! I hate when people assume racism is only practiced by white people. There are also black people who are racist to white people! And just because they once were discriminated, doesn’t justify their racism or make it less worse then when a white person does it. do you get it?

    Alright it looks like im contradicting myself because I’m all like “white people suffer too” and that defies my whole “stop bitching about being discriminated, you don’t deserve anymore respect then the next person” but I was just trying to make a point. The examples and stuff were just to make a point, so you can compare. I say its not fair to take an eye for an eye- meaning just because you were a victim of racism doesn’t justify you victimizing someone else.
    So to the one dimensional individual who said leave the krumping to black people because they need something of their own because white people have taken everything away from the blacks and taken credit for it, I say grow up.

    That’s my rant. Thanks.

  9. eric Says:

    The way you understood the movie is very interseting, I m french and so far I cannot see the background you are talking about and your cliché. I m sorry but to show how people feels art is not a caricature of a community when it s done like this cause through your point of view, none of whatever will be done could be positive. I pity you.

  10. francesca Says:

    u guys are all wacked tommy aint bad or sexual and krump is an expression so dont judge on s*** u aint got nooooooooooo buisness to judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. francesca Says:

    dont judge on sh** u dont kno about this krump is my life. u aint got no bussiness talkin bout something u dont kno

  12. LILMAME917 Says:

    Derek ,you talkin bout racism talk about most of the movies that are about white people (not tryin to be racism) the few black people n the movie die first how come the white people die first? huh . just because they don’t do stuff that you do don’t mean nothin. They express how the black community are. Few people that really want to be actors don’t get to cause their are no people that come to our towns or no places to go that are near us. They got 2 experience the chance to be an actor and are dancers in madonnas music videos now. so before you open your mouth think about what we are writing and keep it shut

  13. francesca Says:

    lil mame is sooooooooo right and has got a good point and you really do need to shut your mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. RaeRaeNZ Says:

    Hey all,
    I’m from New Zealand, haven’t seen the movie Rize(yet!) but am a little bit familiar with the dance through music vids, mostly Missy.E and her dance crew…yeeaah. Her concert was off da hook yo! (not to sound too cheesey coming from a kiwi) Anyway, my point is, Krumping was mean before I knew about it’s origins but now, it has an even deeper meaning for me and I fully am KrumpingKrazed yo……. full support to Krumping…Get Buck!!

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  16. jordyn Says:

    i watched the movie and it was so enspiring i lost words because im KRUMP dancer and im allways danceing so im allways in the box and never looked out side the box and the things you discover about your self and other krump dancers is…is remarkable I LOVE THAT MOVIE AND WILL WATCH IT OVER AND OVER

  17. Sallome! Says:

    I don’t believe Derek will ever visit this particular site again to see the comments of others. However, I hope that the same amount of time he put into writing his opinions about the film, he actually contributes to the community or is out fulfilling on his dreams. I don’t think the film is racist at all. Additionally, David was following Tommy and that was one of the experiences Tommy clearly has (paying condolences to slain young dancers). And I will admit, the film was shown here in NYC at the Brooklyn Academy of Music to a predominately White audience. That pissed me off. But I loved the film and was glad that the movie focused solely on these young people WITHOUT highlighting some liberal White person coming along to “save” them.

    Derek by no means represents Black people. Just one upset and opinionated human being.

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  19. Jewel Says:

    Derek,

    Firstly you misunderstood the movie and tied it into a whole bunch of subjects that it had nothing to do with. Its either that you have the comprehension level of a person with developmental dissabilities, or maybe you just over analyzed the film which is pretty straight forward. The sexualization of minority children is not the focus here, the focus and the main goal of the movie is to explain & introduce krump dancing through movement and interveiws with the children who themselves created it, so that people who are sheltered, ignorant or behind the times can understand where it came from and why they do it and why it helps them keep out of trouble.

    Just like break dancing at one point mystified the world with the way people were learning how to isolate different parts of their bodies. There were movies and documentaries made about it because it was something that originated in the street, amongst the poor whom started to dance because it was their way of keeping busy, then it started to become so popular that it became a form of art.
    Paris is burning is set in a different lifestyle and was created for different reasons than Krumping. Paris is burning is set in the streets of new york, at christopher pier in the village. It came about in a time where there was a multitude of homeless gay/lesbian/gender queer/ and transgendered youth(individuals 9yr – up), children with nowhere to go. These kids started to insult each other with gestures and the point was to be the most flamboyant or the most glamorous. VOGUEING, IS MOVEMENT INSPIRED BY FASHION, AND MODELING POSES. It is a quickie come-back conversation through dance between two or more individuals and it came about because gay people didn’t have a place to go party and thats how balls were created.
    A ball is a theme party, you dress acording to the theme and the contests is about who does it best, meaning who had the best ‘FEMME FACE” and who vogued better.

    Krumping, Clowning, and Twerkin/Stripper dancing was originated in the ghetto’s California. Created by inner city youth in order to pass the time since there aren’t any after school programs and no one had the cash to pay to have these kids do something else. Tommy The Clown provided a place where these children could be off the street and out of danger. Where they live terrible things happen for no reason, like the young girl who danced with them who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and was killed, walking to a store. You need to understand that Clowning is a dance style, that pokes fun, and involves sillyness as part of the dance. Twerking/popping/ stripper dancing is the most of the seductive because it involves different isolations of the hips and waist and thats what its meant to be. Krumping is about releasing your anger it is an outlet in which you release emotions that you can’t help but have and can do nothing about. Whats amazing about these kids is that they themselves created this form of dance, and it evolved into a craze! Tight Eyez, Wild Boy, Miss Prissy, Big Mijo, Lil C, Lil Mama and Willie Ninja practice two very different forms of street dance, what these children created and evolved to on their own is nothing short of amazing, because these are children that never had any direction in what they do, they made it up. I’ve seen Willie dance, and although I’m not a voguer, the fluidity in his movement is beautiful, the same goes for Tight Eyez. I’ve danced my whole entire life but the level of difficulty in Tight Eyez movement, is unheard of in a child with no training, When Lil Mama was popping, what was being show cased was her level of skill in what she was doing at that age, not every seven year old can jump and land in split, you may have been shocked by the way she was dancing but the fact is she did what she did extremely well and being an adult product of a ghetto that doesn’t shock me. In their case dancing is a way to forget your troubles, and in order for you to understand that you need to put yourself in that situation. Think to yourself what you think you would have been doing if you were 13 and you couldn’t go home because your house is more dangerous than the street.

    The krump session that you describe as oily and writhing seductively, had nothing to do with seduction. That krump session was crazy, and involved both krumpers and clowners because they were morning the death of a friend and if you watched the movie RIZE you should have understood that. How you don’t, is unexplainable to me because the young girls mother was in the documentary greiving with a picture of her daughter. They spent over 15 minutes explaining what happened to that young girl, her mother was in the documentary, it was very sad. For you to write the things you did, only highlights the fact that you misconstrued the whole meaning of the movie, and need help with english comprehension because you did the same with PARIS IS BURNING.

    Documentaries are meant to inform about its subject, and thats exactly what both these documentaries did. That you’re too ignorant to understand what message was being sent, and the context of the material presented has nothing to do with the director, or the people in the movie, it has to do with you. I suggest you get someone with common sense to watch the documentary with you so that they could explain what is going on step by step, because obviously you have trouble processing thoughts on your own.

  20. kreese Says:

    this might be one of the funniest blog entries i have ever read. I just wrote an article on this film and you echo many of my own arguments. However i hadn’t thought of the “Paris is Burning” similarities until you pointed them out….really interesting.

  21. tyneesha.danelle Says:

    i overly agree with ‘Jewel’ ! but then again from dereks opinion i can tell that you dont know what the history of not just krumping/clowning/stripper dance is but also tommys history ! krumping/clowning/stripper dance for me is a way of expression how you feel but also can you tell a story through it , dancing helps em personally forget about everythings thats happening in my life but also does dancing make me stronger and confident ! when i am dancing, i feel like am able to put the world on hold and jus be me for a few minutes !

    through dancing i express who i am, i express my feeling and thats only because of tommy to be honest ! i remember rize comming out in 2005 and it being all over mtv,viva etc ! i was amazeeeeeed by the movements but also by tommy the clown …when i was younger is just used to dance for the fun of it and because it kept me thin LOL , but when i saw them interviewing tommy the clown and him giving advise of how dancing can help u in bad times …i was surprised when i tried it and it workd !!

    your opinion clearly shows that you dont know ish about krumping/clowning/stripper dance and the real meaning of it derek … which is quite sad !

  22. tyneesha.danelle Says:

    sorrry this one is the corrected version lol…

    i overly agree with ‘Jewel’ ! but then again from dereks opinion i can tell that you dont know what the history of not just krumping/clowning/stripper dance is but also tommys history ! krumping/clowning/stripper dance for me is a way of expression how you feel but also can you tell a story through it , dancing helps me personally forget about everything thats happening in my life but also does dancing make me stronger and confident ! when am dancing, i feel like am able to put the world on hold and jus be me for a few minutes !

    through dancing i express who i am, i express my feelings and thats only because of tommy to be honest ! i remember rize comming out in 2005 and it being all over mtv,viva etc ! i was amazeeeeeed by the movements but also by tommy the clown …when i was younger is just used to dance for the fun of it and because it kept me thin LOL , but when i saw them interviewing tommy the clown and him giving advise of how dancing can help u in bad times …i was surprised when i tried it and it workd !!

    your opinion clearly shows that you dont know ish about krumping/clowning/stripper dance and the real meaning of it derek … which is quite sad !

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